At a Monday night roundtable in Mississippi on his
bipartisan criminal justice reform effort,
President Trump charged that some migrants he identified as "grabbers"
who rushed the San Ysidro, Calif., point of entry on Sunday essentially
used children as human shields at the border.
"We've had some very
violent people, and we don't want, frankly, those people in our
society," Trump said at the Biloxi event, which included Mississippi law
enforcement officials and South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey
Graham. "We don't want those people in our country. Three Border Patrol
people yesterday were very badly hurt, getting hit with rocks and
stones."
Earlier Monday, U.S. Customs and Border Protection
commissioner Kevin K. McAleenan said four agents wearing protective gear
were hit with rocks during an "extremely dangerous situation," but were
not badly hurt.
The president turned to the widely circulated
images from Sunday's episode, which showed some migrants running away
with children as tear gas canisters landed nearby. Videos and images
from the port of entry also showed migrants throwing what appeared to be
rocks over the fence and attempting to breach the wall.
"I do say
-- why are they there? First of all, the tear gas is a very minor form
of the tear gas itself -- it's very safe, the ones that were suffering
to a certain extent were the people that were putting it out there. But
you really say, why is a parent running up into an area where they know
the tear gas is forming, and it's going to be formed, and they're
running up with a child?"
BORDER PATROL UNDER OBAMA PEPPER-SPRAYED MIGRANTS AT SAME PORT OF ENTRY IN 2013
McAleenan
said Monday that at least 69 people were detained after they crossed
the border on Sunday, and that he was not aware of any that managed to
cross and evade capture by U.S. authorities.
Trump continued: "In
some cases, you know, they're not the parents. These are people, they
call 'em 'grabbers' -- they grab the child, because they think they're
gonna have a certain status by having a child. You know, you have
certain advantages and things with our crazy laws that frankly Congress
should be changing. You know, if you change the laws, you wouldn't have
this problem."
That was an apparent reference
to Trump's longstanding criticism of the Flores consent decree, made
amid litigation during former President Bill Clinton's administration,
that ostensibly limits the amount of time that federal authorities can
detain illegal immigrant minors who are caught along with their parents.
After
the president instituted a zero-tolerance policy that all illegal
immigrants should be referred for criminal prosecution, administration
officials argued that the Flores decree legally prevented them from
keeping adults and children in custody together for more than two weeks.
Amid fierce criticism, Trump signed an executive order this summer
barring family separations at the border, although it remains subject to
legal challenges.
WATCH: HUNDREDS OF MIGRANTS ATTEMPT TO STORM PORT OF ENTRY IN SAN YSIDRO
The
president clarified that "they feel an advantage when they're with a
young child. ... They call 'em grabbers, that's a term I've heard. ...
They grab a child, because when they have a child, they feel a lot
safer. ... When you know there's going to be potential violence, you
know there's going to be tear gas or something -- you don't take your
child and bring them there. I can say that all over the border, you have
a lot of grabbers, you have a lot of people who grab children, and they
have no idea who these children are. They're not parents. They have no
idea. And frankly to release the children to these people is a
disaster."
In a statement late Monday, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen backed up Trump's comments.
"They grab a child, because when they have a child, they feel a lot safer."
— President Trump
"It
appears in some cases that the limited number of women and children in
the caravan are being used by the organizers as 'human shields' when
they confront law enforcement," Nielsen said. "They are being put at
risk by the caravan organizers as we saw at the Mexico-Guatemala border.
This is putting vulnerable people in harms way."
At the White House earlier in the day, Trump similarly defended the Border Patrol authorities who fired the tear gas.
"They
had to use it; they were being rushed by some very tough people," Trump
said. "And so they used tear gas. Here's the bottom line: No one's
coming into our country unless they come in legally."
The situation Sunday was not unprecedented. In 2013, during the Obama administration,
Border Patrol agents used pepper spray to fend off a crowd of approximately 100 migrants
who attempted to rush the San Ysidro port of entry. The migrants in
that episode also reportedly threw rocks and bottles at U.S.
authorities.
Homeland Security data show that, in the final years of the Obama administration, tear gas was deployed at the border approximately once per month.
Nevertheless,
prominent Democrats lined up to hammer the administration on Monday, as
images of migrants fleeing tear gas fumes circulated. New York
Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, for example, called the use of tear
gas “horrendous.”
Other analysts suggested that a rework of the
immigration system might be necessary to dissuade similar efforts by
members of any future migrant caravans without encouraging clandestine
migration. John Cerone, a visiting professor of international law at The
Fletcher School at Tufts University, told Fox News that he would
recommend "the creation of new visa categories that people can apply for
without having to physically come to the U.S. first."
At the roundtable, Trump said the episode at the border Sunday highlighted the importance of building a robust border wall.
"The
only little breach yesterday, we took care of it very nicely and
quickly and apprehended those who breached, was in one area where the
wall wasn't quite built yet -- it wasn't completed," Trump said. "When
people look at what's going on at the border, they agree ... with what
we're doing, very strongly."
The president said he would have no
reservations about closing the entire southern border, saying any
implications on trade only would encourage Mexico to get a handle on the
migrant situation there. Trump also noted specifically that some
Mexican police officials had been harmed.
"I'll close it for a
long time," Trump said. "And as far as trade, I'm not concerned, because
Mexico has done very well with trade with the United States."
He
added: "I suspect because of how well the country's doing, we have a lot
more people [coming]. This isn't happening by luck. Something's
happening in Honduras, and Guatemala and El Salvador -- you look how
organized it is. They're handing out papers."
In her statement
Monday night, Nielsen, the DHS head, said that "the overwhelming
majority" of caravan members "are not eligible for asylum in the United
States under our laws."
Calling the episode Monday "entirely
predictable," Nielsen said DHS has confirmed that "there are over 600
convicted criminals traveling with the caravan flow,"
including "individuals known to law enforcement for assault, battery,
drug crimes, burglary, rape, child abuse and more." She added that
Mexico had already arrested at least 100 caravan migrants.
"Seeking employment or family reunification are not grounds for asylum under our laws."
— Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen
"Most
of these migrants are seeking jobs or to join family who are already in
the U.S.," Nielsen said. "They have all refused multiple opportunities
to seek protection in Mexico or with the UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency.
Seeking employment or family reunification are not grounds for asylum
under our laws, or any international obligation."
The primary
purpose of the roundtable Monday was to discuss the so-called First Step
Act, the first major rewrite of the nation's criminal justice
sentencing laws in a generation, which would boost rehabilitation
efforts for federal prisoners and give judges more discretion when
sentencing nonviolent offenders, particularly for drug offenses.
In
particular, the proposed bill lowers the mandatory minimum sentence for
non-violent repeat drug offenders from 25 to 20 years, reduces
mandatory minimums for other crimes from 20 to 15 years, and makes no
distinction between powder cocaine and crack cocaine.
Trump
highlighted recent criminal justice reform efforts in Texas, Kentucky,
and Georgia, and said "a lot of people have changed their minds" on the
topic.
"If you look at some of the people who are most supportive
of this," Trump said, "it's very impressive. People that are really into
the world of strength and law and order, and they're totally supporitve
of this, as much as anybody."
WHAT IS THE STEP ACT, TRUMP'S MAJOR BIPARTISAN CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM INITIATIVE?
The
roundtable took place just an hour before Trump's second campaign rally
of the day in Mississippi to support incumbent GOP Sen. Cindy
Hyde-Smith, who is facing off in Tuesday's special election runoff
against Democrat Mike Espy.