Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a key witness in House Democrats' impeachment inquiry,
communicated via her personal email account with a Democratic
congressional staffer concerning a "quite delicate" and "time-sensitive"
matter -- just two days after the whistleblower complaint that
kickstarted the inquiry was filed, and a month before the complaint
became public, emails obtained Thursday by Fox News' "Tucker Carlson
Tonight" show.
The emails appear to contradict Yovanovitch's deposition on Capitol Hill last
month, in which she told U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., about an email
she received Aug. 14 from the staffer, Laura Carey -- but indicated
under oath that she never responded to it.
The communication came
"from the Foreign Affairs Committee," and "they wanted me to come in and
talk about, I guess, the circumstances of my departure," Yovanovitch
testified, describing Carey's initial email. "I alerted the State
Department, because I'm still an employee, and so, matters are generally
handled through the State Department."
Yovanovitch continued:
"So, she emailed me. I alerted the State Department and, you know, asked
them to handle the correspondence. And, she emailed me again and said,
you know, 'Who should I be in touch with?'"
Fox News is told it is
a breach of normal procedure for congressional staff to reach out to a
current State Department employee at their personal email address for
official business.
Asked directly
whether she responded to Carey's overtures, Yovanovitch testified only
that someone in the "Legislative Affairs Office" at the State Department
had responded to Carey, to the best of her knowledge.
Yovanovitch did
not indicate that she had responded to Carey's first email in any way,
and testified explicitly that she did not reply to Carey's follow-up
email concerning whom she should contact at the State Department.
However, emails obtained by Fox News' "Tucker Carlson Tonight" showed
that in fact, Yovanovitch had responded to Carey's initial Aug. 14
email, writing that she "would love to reconnect and look forward to
chatting with you."
On Aug. 14, Carey reached out to Yovanovitch
with pleasantries about the last time the two had "crossed paths" --
"when I was detailed to" the Senate Foreign Relations Committee --
before noting that Carey had resigned from the State Department to join
the House Foreign Affairs Committee staff performing oversight work.
"I'm
writing to see if you would have time to meet up for a chat — in
particular, I’m hoping to discuss some Ukraine-related oversight
questions we are exploring," Carey then wrote to Yovanovitch. "I'd
appreciate the chance to ground-truth a few pieces of information with
you, some of which are quite delicate/time-sensitive and, thus, we want
to make sure we get them right."
Carey continued: "Could you let
me know if you have any time this week or next to connect? Happy to come
to a place of your choosing, or if easier, to speak by phone at either
of the numbers below. I'm also around this weekend if meeting up over
coffee works."
On
Aug. 15, Yovanovitch responded: "Thanks for reaching out -- and
congratulations on your new job. I would love to reconnect and look
forward to chatting with you. I have let EUR [Bureau of European and
Eurasian Affairs] know that you are interested in talking and they will
be in touch with you shortly."
On Aug. 19, Carey wrote, "Great --
thanks for the response and I look forward to hearing from them. As
mentioned, it would be ideal to connect this week... assuming this week
is doable for you schedule-wise?"
Zeldin told Fox News on
Thursday it was "greatly concerning" that Yovanovitch may have testified
incorrectly that she did not personally respond to Carey's email.
"I
would highly suspect that this Democratic staffer's work was connected
in some way to the whistleblower's effort, which has evolved into this
impeachment charade," Zeldin said. "We do know that the whistleblower
was in contact with [House Intelligence Committee Chairman] Adam
Schiff's team before the whistleblower had even hired an attorney or
filed a whistleblower complaint even though Schiff had lied to the
public originally claiming that there was no contact. Additionally,
while the contents of the email from this staffer to Ambassador
Yovanovitch clearly state what the conversation would be regarding,
Yovanovitch, when I asked her specifically what the staffer
was looking to speak about, did not provide these details."
Zeldin
added: "I specifically asked her whether the Democratic staffer was
responded to by Yovanovitch or the State Department. It is greatly
concerning that Ambassador Yovanovitch didn't answer my question as
honestly as she should have, especially while under oath."
"It
is greatly concerning that Ambassador Yovanovitch didn't answer my
question as honestly as she should have, especially while under oath."
— U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y.
A
Democratic House Foreign Affairs Committee spokesperson, however,
characterized the outreach as innocuous, saying it was related
to Yovanovitch's public ouster as the envoy to Ukraine.
"The
committee wanted to hear from an ambassador whose assignment was cut
short under unusual circumstances," the spokesperson said. "This staff
outreach was part of monthslong efforts that culminated in the September
9 launch of an investigation into these events. Congress has a
constitutional duty to conduct oversight. The State Department doesn’t
tell Congress how to do that job, and should be more concerned with the
culture of retaliation and impunity that has festered under this
administration."
Neither Carey nor the State Department immediately responded to Fox News' requests for comment.
President
Trump ordered Yovanovitch to be recalled from her post this past May
following allegations of partisanship and political bias. Democrats have
suggested her service was terminated so that the Trump administration
could carry out illicit foreign policy with Ukraine.
George Kent,
a career official at the State Department, told House investigators
conducting the impeachment inquiry that a Ukrainian official told him
Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani had conspired with Yuriy Lutsenko, the
then-prosecutor general of Ukraine, to "throw mud" as part of a
“campaign of slander” against Yovanovitch.
That accusation came out in testimony released earlier Thursday.
"Well,
Mr. Giuliani was almost unmissable starting in mid-March," Kent told
investigators. "As the news campaign, or campaign of slander against,
not only Ambassador Yovanovitch unfolded, he had a very high media
presence, so he was on TV, his Twitter feed ramped up and it was all
focused on Ukraine."
"Tucker Carlson Tonight" investigative producer Alex Pfeiffer contributed to this report.