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Fox News Senior Correspondent and host of "Special Report" Bret Baier
sat down with Elon Musk and the entire DOGE team on Thursday. This is a step up from the individual interviews done with Musk and one or two of the members. While their work overlaps all of the government agencies, each DOGE member spoke to the findings at particular agencies like the Social Security Administration, the Office of Management and Budget, the Department of Health and Human Services, the National Institute of Health, the Department of the Treasury, and the Department of the Interior. Baier kicked off his questioning with Musk, asking what are the DOGE budgetary savings goals and what he thinks he's achieved thus far?
Baier asked, "What's the most astonishing thing you've found out in this process?"
While the American people had no concept of the details, many of us have known for decades that this was the case. Worse, that prior administrations and lawmakers have given lip service to cutting fraud and waste for decades but did not give a rat's heinie about actually doing anything. Musk and the DOGE team gave full credit to President Donald Trump and to his Cabinet for allowing this exploration and correction to happen. Now that DOGE is posting all this for everyone to see, we are receiving the confirmation. Musk and the DOGE team all confirmed that some of the reasons why the waste is so prevalent and fraud is so easily executed are aged government systems that have multiple redundancies, varying computer systems from agency to agency that do not talk with each other, and the lack of accountability and safeguards within the agencies.
DOGE software engineer Aram Moghaddassi
pointed out a gap in the Social Security Administration function that has been exploited by fraudsters and has received much press thanks to the hue and cry from the Democrats: the ability to change banking information over the phone. Moghaddassi said that the Social Security Administration gets phone calls every day from people trying to get them to change their banking information. DOGE has discovered that 40 percent of those calls are from fraudsters.
As a result of the work of DOGE and this change, grandma's benefits have a greater layer of protection from being stolen. Musk said:
Musk doubled down: Let the record show that I said this, and it will be proven out to be true. Musk asked Baier to check back on this in the future. Another manipulation of the fraud gap discovered by engineer Steve Davis
is over $300 million in Small Business Administration loans had been given out to people under the age of 11 and over $300 million distributed to people over the age of 120. Musk discussed how this gap occurred, lamenting how fraudsters exploit the Social Security numbers of newborn babies.
DOGE's Anthony Armstrong,
who is working within OPM, pinpointed how this happens.
Musk concurred:
Chief DOGE engineer Steve Davis said that the number of issues with the Social Security system:
Engineer Tom Krause
is part of DOGE in the Treasury Department. He pointed to the attitude and culture within the government, which perpetuates the lack of oversight and fraud.
The DOGE team consistently pointed out that a private company with this lack of financial controls would have gone under a long time ago.
Baier asked Musk about the pushback DOGE was receiving and what his response was. Musk declared:
Musk further warned:
Baier posted the entire interview on his X account. Editor's Note: Elon Musk and DOGE are bringing much-needed accountability to our out-of-control bureaucracy as they take a chainsaw to rampant waste, fraud, and abuse. |