Tensions
at a heated House Judiciary Committee hearing on online hate speech
boiled over on Tuesday, when conservative commentator Candace Owens
accused Rep. Ted Lieu, D-Calif., of distorting her comments on Hitler so
flagrantly for the sake of a smear that he must "believe black people
are stupid."
“In congressional hearings, the minority party gets
to select its own witnesses," Lieu began. "Of all the people the
Republicans could’ve selected, they picked Candace Owens. I don’t know
Miss Owens; I’m not going to characterize her; I’m going to let her own
words talk.”
Lieu then
produced a cellphone and played a short clip of Owens'
previous remarks at a conference in December, which were widely circulated in February:
“I actually don't have any problem with the word 'nationalism.' I think
the defintion gets poisoned by elites that want globalism. Globalism is
what I don't want. When we say ‘nationalism,’ the first thing people
think about — at least in America — is Hitler. You know, he was a
national socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and
have things run well, OK then, fine. The problem is, he had dreams
outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everyone to be
German. ..."
Owens' remarks echoed those of President Trump, who
has repeatedly defended nationalism against progressive attacks that the concept is intrinsically racist.
Lieu
then asked committee witness Eileen Hershenov: “When people try to
legitimize Adolf Hitler, does that feed into white nationalist
ideology?”
But Owens soon made clear she felt Lieu had
intentionally misrepresented her views to drive a false narrative not
just against Owens, but also Trump and Republicans in general.
“I
think it’s pretty apparent that Mr. Lieu believes that black people are
stupid and will not pursue the full clip in its entirety,” Owens said.
Judiciary
Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-NY., interrupted, telling Owens, “It
is not proper to refer disparagingly to a member of the committee. The
witness will not do that again.”
After clarifying that she had
not, in fact, called Lieu stupid, Owens continued: "As I said, he is
assuming that black people will not go and pursue the full two-hour
clip. He purposefully cut off -- and you didn't hear the question that
was asked of me. He's trying to present as if I was launching a defense
of Hitler in Germany, when in fact the question that was presented to me
was pertaining to wheher I believed in nationalism, and
that nationalism was bad."
As Owens went on, Lieu tapped his hands together silently.
"And
what I responded is that I do not believe we should be characterizing
Hitler as a nationalist," Owens said. "He was a homicidal, psychopathic
maniac that killed his own people. A nationalist would not kill their
own people. ... That was unbelievably dishonest, and he did not allow me
to respond to it."
"I think it’s pretty apparent that Mr. Lieu believes that black people are stupid."
— Candace Owens
Owens
concluded: "By the way, I would like to also add that I work for Prager
University, which is run by an orthodox Jew. Not a single Democrat
showed up to the embassy opening in Jerusalem. I sat on a plane for 18
hours to make sure I was there. I am deeply offended by the insinuation
of revealing that clip without the question that was asked of me."
Turning
to her 75-year old grandfather seated behind her, Owens remarked, “My
grandfather grew up on a sharecropping farm in the segregated South. He
grew up in an America where words like ‘racism’ and ‘white nationalism’
held real meaning.”
The hearing was separately derailed when a
YouTube livestream of the proceedings was bombarded with racist and
anti-Semitic comments from internet users.
YouTube disabled the
live chat section of the streaming video about 30 minutes into the
hearing because of what it called "hateful comments."
FILE - In this Dec. 17, 2018, file photo, a man using a mobile
phone walks past Google offices in New York. Executives from Google and
Facebook are facing Congress Tuesday, April 8, 2019, to answer questions
about their role in the hate crimes and the rise of white nationalism
in the U.S. (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan, File)
The incident came as executives from Google and
Facebook answered lawmakers' questions about the companies' role in the
spread of hate crimes and the purported rise of white nationalism in the
U.S. They were joined by leaders of such human rights organizations as
the Anti-Defamation League and the Equal Justice Society, along with
conservative commentator Candace Owens.
Neil
Potts, Facebook director of public policy, and Alexandria Walden,
counsel for free expression and human rights at Google, defended
policies at the two companies that prohibit material that incites
violence or hate. Google owns YouTube.
"There is no place for terrorism or hate on Facebook," Potts testified. "We remove any content that incites violence."
The
hearing broke down into partisan disagreement among the lawmakers and
among some of the witnesses, with Republican members of Congress
denouncing as hate speech Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar's criticism of
American supporters of Israel.
As the bickering went on, Nadler
was handed a news report that included the hateful comments about the
hearing on YouTube. He read them aloud, along with the users' screen
names, as the room quieted.
"This just illustrates part of the problem we're dealing with," Nadler said.
Monday's hearing
was prompted by the mosque shootings last month in Christchurch, New
Zealand, that left 50 people dead. The gunman livestreamed the
attacks on Facebook and published a long post online that espoused white
supremacist views.
Owens was named in the mosque shooter's
manifesto, along with eco-fascism, socialism, Trump, and other seemingly
unrelated actors. The shooter, who professed affection for divisive
online memes and sowing social discord, explicitly stated that his
intent was to gin up division and goad different factions into attacking
one another.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.