Debate descends into melee over health care, Obama, socialism as Dems struggle to show unity
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Long-simmering
policy disputes between Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and
a slew of other candidates exploded into the open during Thursday
night's Democratic primary debate, as the candidates -- often with raised voices -- laid bare their fundamental disagreements on "Medicare-for-all," immigration and more.
Intermittent
efforts by some candidates to show unity and keep the heat on President
Trump repeatedly failed, with most striving instead to score an
aggressive debate "moment" onstage in Houston.
Amid the melee, Pete Buttigieg
offered an exit ramp from the feuding as he criticized the Democrats
for "scoring points against each other" -- prompting Julian Castro to
interject, "That's called an election!"
"Yeah, but a house divided cannot stand," Amy Klobuchar retorted, to no avail.
The economy,
which has performed well by virtually all major metrics in the past
year, went largely undiscussed during the raucous three-hour debate.
And, even as House Democrats made a push towards potentially impeaching the president this week, that topic conspicuously did not come up either.
Setting the tone
The brouhaha at the ABC News-hosted debate began from the outset, when Biden set the tone by going after Warren directly.
"I know the senator says she's for Bernie," Biden said. "Well, I'm for Barack."
"For a socialist, you've got a lot more confidence in corporate America than I do," Biden shot back at Sanders
shortly afterward, after the U.S. senator from Vermont suggested
corporations would return the money they currently make on high
insurance premiums if his sweeping plan were implemented.
Sanders
responded by referring to cancer treatment, leading Biden to sharply
reply, "I know a lot about cancer — it's personal to me." Brain cancer
killed Biden's son Beau four years ago.
The clashes settled any
questions about whether the top-tier candidates – meeting onstage for
the first time, with the addition of Warren – would hold back. To the
contrary, Biden was clearly mindful that Warren has been surging in
recent weeks and was ready to fight to hold his frontrunner status,
while several candidates continued to pile on Biden as they have at past
debates.
Heated clashes
But the most
heated clashes of the night came between Biden and fellow Obama
administration member Castro, who tangled at length in direct and
seemingly personal terms.
"I'm fulfilling the legacy of Barack
Obama, and you're not," Castro said, referring to the millions of
Americans who lack health coverage -- leading Biden to respond, "That'll
be a surprise to him."
Castro hammered Biden for claiming that
individuals would not be required to buy into his health care plan in
order to receive coverage.
"You just said two minutes ago they would have to buy in. Are you forgetting what you said two minutes ago?" Castro asked. Some commentators said Castro's jab was an improper, thinly veiled reference to Biden's age.
However,
Biden did not say during the debate that individuals would have to buy
in. Instead, Biden said that individuals would automatically be enrolled
if they lost their jobs.
"Anyone who can't afford it gets
automatically enrolled in the Medicare-type option we have," Biden had
said. "If you lose the job from your insurance company, from your
employer, you automatically can buy into this."
Biden responded
correctly, as the crowd roared in support of Castro, that he had said
that people would be "automatically enrolled" under his plan.
Later
on, during a discussion on immigration, Castro hit Biden for distancing
himself from Barack Obama's record when it suited him, only to
emphasize his tenure as vice president when it was beneficial.
"He wants to take credit for Obama's work, but not have to answer any questions!" Castro charged.
"I
stand with Barack Obama all eight years — good, bad and indifferent,"
Biden said. "I did not say, 'I did not stand with him.'"
Biden,
meanwhile, drilled Warren and Sanders for refusing to directly answer
whether taxes would go up under their preferred Medicare-for-all
proposal.
"The only question here in terms of difference is where to send the bill," Warren eventually offered.
She
added: "We all owe a huge debt to President Obama, who fundamentally
transformed health care in America, and committed this country to health
care for every human being. And now the question is, how best can we
improve on it?"
Warren
maintained that she had "never actually never met anybody who likes
their health insurance company ... what they want is access to health
care."
Sanders, his voice rising, repeated a familiar line in
defense of his "Medicare-for-all" plan against supposed distortions by
his opponents, saying, "I wrote the damn bill."
"Maybe you have run into people who love their premiums," Sanders barked. "I haven't."
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"While Bernie wrote the bill, I read the bill,"
Klobuchar snapped back later, to applause. Klobuchar, who does not
support Medicare-for-all, maintained that millions would lose their
private coverage.
Sen. Kamala Harris, meanwhile, insisted she had "always" supported Sanders' health care plan, even as she has publicly waffled as to what would happen to private insurance plans if
she were elected. She has said all private health care plans would be
eliminated, as Sanders prefers, only to quickly walk back that idea.
Protesters interrupt
Tensions
were evident both on and off the stage. Toward the end of the debate, a
group of protesters interrupted Biden for nearly a minute -- just
before he began speaking about personal tragedies in his life, including
the death of his first wife and daughter in 1972.
Biden also repeated the inaccurate claim that children were not kept in cages under the Obama administration. The most widely circulated photo of children in cages in immigration detention centers, though falsely attributed to the Trump era, was in fact taken during Obama's presidency.
"Nobody should be in jail for a non-violent crime." — Joe Biden, during the debate
The
former vice president also seemingly made a bungled and anachronistic
appeal to technology, urging attendees, "Play the radio. Make sure the
television, excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night,
the phone..."
That response came after a question about what
Americans can do to help roll back the legacy of slavery. Biden was
suggesting that children need to "hear words" outside of the school
environment to improve their vocabulary. Then, when a moderator tried to
cut off his lengthy answer, Biden fired back, "No, I'm gonna go like
the rest of them do -- twice over."
In another
head-turning moment, during a discussion on criminal justice reform,
Biden suggested that nonviolent crimes should never result in prison
time.
"Nobody should be in jail for a non-violent crime," Biden
said. "When we were in the White House, we released 36,000 people from
the federal prison system."
Bizarre moment
But
before all the battles got underway, the debate immediately brought
about a bizarre moment early on, when longshot candidate Andrew Yang revealed he
would randomly give 10 families that registered on his website $1,000
per month -- what he called a "freedom dividend."
The plan
prompted a sustained moment of silence from Buttigieg, who took several
seconds to begin his own opening statement once Yang finished, and
eventually said, "That's original, I'll give it that."
Some suggested the plan might even violate campaign-finance laws.
Yang has advanced a plan to give every American at least $1,000 per month if elected -- via taxpayer funds.
For
the other candidates, the evening offered an opportunity for an
electric moment and a potential momentum boost. Harris' sustained attack
on Biden's decades-old opposition to federally required busing during
the June primary debate gained her the nation's attention, even as
critics said she had mischaracterized the former senator's position.
Harris' numbers have fallen since that moment, and big-money donors reportedly said this week they would abandon her candidacy if she didn't have a strong performance on Thursday.
"Kamala will take on Donald Trump directly," Harris press secretary Ian Sams promised.
In
her opening statement, Harris did just that. She dubiously claimed that
the only reason Trump has not been indicted is that Justice Department
guidelines prohibit the indictment of a sitting president -- a
proposition former Special Counsel Robert Mueller has explicitly denied.
For
his part, Trump's campaign was visible during the debate in Houston --
overhead. His campaign was using a plane to fly a banner that reads
“Socialism will kill Houston’s economy."
O'Rourke, meanwhile, continued to refocus his campaign on
pushing unprecedented gun-control measures -- including mandatory
buybacks of legal firearms. O'Rourke, when he was running for the Senate
in Texas just last year, explicitly said that he opposed confiscating legally purchased AR-15s.
In
his opening statement, O'Rourke urged Americans to be "bigger" than
petty politics -- just after he stated that the recent mass shooting in
El Paso, Texas, was inspired by the president. In his manifesto, the
shooter explicitly said Trump had not done so.
O'Rourke doubled
down on his mandatory gun-buyback program later on: "We have a white
supremacist in the White House, and he poses a mortal threat to people
of color all across this country." He said "hell yes" when asked if guns
needed to be confiscated.
O'Rourke added: "When we see that being
used against children. ... Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15,
your AK-47. We're not going to allow it to be used against our fellow
Americans anymore."
His campaign, in a riff on Warren's virtual slogan, later tweeted, "Beto has a ban for that," next to a photo of a gun.
After the debate, a Texas state representative tweeted,
"My AR is ready for you Robert Francis," using O'Rourke's birth name.
Twitter quickly took down the post from Republican state Rep. Briscoe Cain.
O'Rourke responded
on Twitter: "This is a death threat, Representative. Clearly, you
shouldn't own an AR-15—and neither should anyone else."
Other candidates onstage largely agreed although they stopped short of endorsing O'Rourke's gun confiscation plan.
"A
few weeks ago, a shooter drove ten hours, inspired by this president,
to kill people who look like me," Castro said. "White supremacy is a
growing threat to this country, and we have to root it out."
For her part, Harris implicitly blamed Trump for the violence.
"Well, look," Harris said. "Obviously he didn't pull the trigger, but he's certainly been tweeting out the ammunition."
Harris
then took aim at Biden, and advanced her plan to unilaterally take
executive action on guns if necessary, bypassing Congress.
"Hey
Joe — instead of saying, 'No we can't,' let's say, 'Yes we can," Harris
said, referring mockingly to Obama's campaign slogan.
"Let's be constitutional," Biden responded.
Concerning
climate change, Warren sounded an apocalyptic note, saying flatly that
"every living thing" could die. She noted that experts have warned that
there is little time left to avert catastrophe. United Nations
scientists have claimed the world has 10 years to get global warming under control since at least 1989.
On
trade, the candidates largely agreed that China was acting improperly
-- "they steal our intellectual property," Harris said -- but all
asserted that Trump's approach of ever-increasing tariffs was reckless.
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